Remembering my Hometown of San Manuel Arizona

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My morning commute is usually pretty uneventful, it’s a short 15 minute drive in which I usually spend most of my time wrestling with the sunshade in a futile attempt to block out the early morning sun. This last Wednesday’s commute was markedly different. As I listened to NPR I heard a name called out during the broadcast that only lived on in childhood memories, that name was “Magma Copper Company”. The broadcaster went on to say that the huge, 500ft twin smelter stacks that acted as an iconic beacon for both the copper company and the town of San Manuel were to be demolished at 1:00PM that same day, January 17th 2007. Immediately I called my family in Tucson and told them about the news, of which they were already aware of. I went about the rest of my day as usual, not really thinking much about what was to take place in San Manuel later that day.

BHP's Magma Copper Company

You see, San Manuel was the place where I grew up and Magma Copper Company was at the very center of it’s economic heart and soul. The rich copper veins of the mine provided the residents of San Manuel, and neighboring residents of Oracle and Mammoth with more than enough to enjoy a nice and comfortable living. It was one of the few remaining places where generations of Baby Boomers and their children could make more than $20 an hour with just a High School education, and this was back in the early 1990’s just to put it into perspective. Truth be told, that fact alone gave many graduating High School seniors the incentive to not think twice about furthering their education and remain in San Manuel to settle down and work. Unfortunately, that all changed in the years to come.

In 1996, BHP Billiton purchased Magma Copper Company for $2.4 Billion. In 1999, BHP pulled the plug on the San Manuel copper facility based on the continually falling price of copper. What was once one of the largest underground copper mines in the world ceased to exist and in the blink of an eye, an entire community lost it’s identity and lifeblood. It was hard on my parents to just pick up and leave. My father had worked as a locomotive mechanic for more than 15 years, and now there was no other option than to train in another field and find job opportunities elsewhere. Luckily, my parents had provided my Sister and I with the financial means of getting a college education, yet it was sad to think about all the families that were left with nothing but a final paycheck and a thank you.

I think I avoided learning more about the demolition because I just wasn’t ready to see the smokestacks go. I left San Manuel in 1994 to attend Arizona State, and although I’ve lived in Phoenix for more than 10 years now, San Manuel is the only home I’ve ever known. My family and I owe so much to that copper company and that small town, and I guess the demolition is one final act of closure that’s been missing ever since the copper mine was shutdown.

As a small tribute, I’ve attached 2 videos (RSS feed readers - please visit the site to see the videos). The first shows the demolition of the twin stacks; you can actually hear one of the onlookers weeping after the stacks fell. The second video gives a mini-documentary of the copper company and the Dell E. Webb designed town that was built exclusively for it. You can also read more about the financial decisions that ultimately sealed the copper company’s fate here: Town’s last copper relics to pass into history.

Sincerely,
The Closet Entrepreneur

115 Comments

  1. Laura Glass Cothern

    Even though I’ve moved a number of years ago, I knew that I was close to home when I seen the stacks. I even remember when the second stack being constructed. It is truly an end of an era.

  2. Michael Mejia

    Thanks for the tribute. I grew up there. And you know what? It was sad. It’s like our identity was taken away. And now there truly is…nothing

  3. TOMAS

    Laura, I too remember being able to see the stacks on the way back home from Tucson about 2 or 3 miles after passing the last Oracle entrance.

    Michael, it was very sad visiting the town after the mine was closed. So many homes fell into disrepair when it wasn’t uncommon to see beautiful green trees and grass everywhere you looked. I always hoped that there might be an economic revival that could sustain the town, but it was quite a sad thing to see the town change so drastically.

  4. Leslie Page Nelson

    I too remember the smoke stacks. I have rarely been back to San Manuel, only 3 times I think, but it was very sad watching the video of the demolition. I too had a few tears and a lump in my throat while watching the video.

    My sisters and I are planning a trip back with our Mother. It will be sad not seeing the stacks, but our memories of our San Manuel will always be with us.

  5. Will Nedoroscik

    Weird, that would be the word I would use to discribe seeing the old town without it’s trade mark smoke stacks. My family lived both their and in Mammonth for a few years while my father worked as a welder for Magma Copper Co. I know there had been talk of San Manuel turning into a retirement community. While I haven’t returned in many years, I can only hope that the town survives and doesn’t slip away into history along with the copper mines.

  6. Russell

    I still can’t believe that the mine is gone. I graduated from San Manuel High School and worked at the mine for one summer. My father worked there for almost 40 years. I really wish Magma didn’t sell the mine to BHP.. If they didn’t I’m sure the mine would still be open and all my friends and school mates would still be there.

  7. Nancy Cardell Hough

    Altho for some reason I couldn’t view your videos (even from the website) I enjoyed reading about the memories of San Manuel and Magma (it will never be “BHP” to me! We moved to San Manuel in 1956, then to Mammoth and then to Oracle…and I left there about 1964…after I graduated from SMHS, married, and have visited the towns often. My parents stayed there at Oracle until their death’s in 2001 and 2002……there are so very many memories of those growing up years! That is the oe thing that cannot be taken from us….the memories!!!!

  8. TOMAS

    Hi Nancy, the video issues may be on the hosting site’s end - they’re showing up as I type this so you might want to try viewing them again. Also, the videos require that you have the latest version of flash installed on your browser. If you really want to see them, let me know and I can send them to you to view locally.

  9. Joellen

    I was blessed to be able to make it to the demolition of the stacks. It was a day full of emotion and my sister and I shed many a tear as the full impact of it hit our hearts. We were both born there and mom and dad are still living in town. I put my experience down on paper, and wanted to just share the opening paragraph, and one from the body of the story…

    “I debated with myself about writing this story. After all, how do I put into words being present for the end of an era, for the end of what built my hometown, as well as provided for our family? How do I explain this whole thing to people who would say, “What’s the big deal?” How do I even attempt to try and share the emotions, the tears, and the trauma of watching the San Manuel smelter stacks come down? But try I must, if only for the people who know what the big deal is, and weren’t able to make it to the demolition on January 17, 2007. Sort of our own little day of infamy in San Manuel, Arizona. It’s for those of you out there that spent your days working the mine, were the spouse and children of these people, or maybe just came to know and love my hometown because you knew me or my family. It is for you, and maybe for me too, that I’ll give it a try.”

    “Then suddenly we heard it… nine, eight, seven, six, five… cameras in place. Will they drop one at a time, what will it be like, will I hear the bang or see smoke first, how will I really feel, what’s the big deal? Then there was an explosion, I heard three blasts, I felt them slam into my chest, I started clicking off pictures. I had hoped they would take down one at a time so I could shoot one and just watch the other. But I saw it all through my viewfinder instead, they were dropping together. It was all in slow motion, I hear that happens sometimes, but hadn’t really experienced it. We had laughed on the drive in that maybe they will topple them together, but they will bump into each other and get stuck half standing - nanny nanny boo boo on you sort of thing. The stacks began to fall into each other, but they didn’t get stuck, one broke in half. I could still feel it in my chest, the butterflies were really flopping now, I kept taking pictures, I could hear Ann’s reaction, she was beginning to sob, but still running the video camera. The crowd around us was a mixture of screams and laughter. Fifteen seconds it took to topple our lives, not long at all in the grand scheme of things. Then the stacks hit the ground, the earth shook on impact, the rumble rattled my bones and broke my heart. I lowered my camera and stared. Just like that, the smoke stacks were gone. Some kid behind me hollered “Do that again!”. I wanted to turn around and tell him to shut up. But he was just a kid, without a history like mine, too young to care what it really meant to many in the crowd, and many in the world unable to make it to the event.”

  10. Joe P.

    Here it is…ohhh…about 6 months after that happened and I still get depressed thinking about the entire day.

    THey say you can’t go home again. I guess they are right.

  11. david

    what I remeber is the stikes.and the ocaionaly knoledge of learning some one died. and when I went to high school the sulfer was so bad I couild hardly breath. Yet in all that it was what kept that area alive. and even tho I realy didnt like it there i have to say I miss it. I reamber seeing the stacks go in winkilman and that was a site. but back then it was so they copuld build some bigger ones. to see the mines go is no dudt a end to a erra. but what teh large corporations cant take is memorys.

  12. William Cathey

    There are times such as now in which aspiring to invision the future rather than the past becomes obvious. I suppose we all do it, for what was our past, to some extent, makes us who we are today. I often look back to the days of grade school in Oracle, then on to High School in San Manuel all those many years ago. Although my families economic status relied only in part to Magma, the majority of close friends and their parents relied solely on the future of the mine.
    My father, who regrets to this day that he moved us away from Oracle, (for he knew that we loved it there), occasionally has to be reminded that my fate would also likely have hung in the balance of mine ownership, copper prices etc. My only regrets are missing the many great friends and memories that we shared in the quaint tri-communities.
    Move forward, I suppose we must. Thank you Closet Entrepreneur (whoever you are) for the videos and information, without which I may never have known, and my best wishes for those whose lives will forever be altered by the shutdown and the subsequent dominoe effect that I can only imagine will transpire in the region.

  13. vic corona

    I lived in the mammoth san manuel area for about 13 years,I was born in san manuel,I will sure miss seeing the stacks when I return to that area some day.I have lived in sacramento ca for the last 24 years,thanks for the film!

  14. I worked at San Manuel as a laborer during 1957-58. Great job for a college student: hard, dangereous, exciting. Jack Geary

  15. Wanda Wasson

    San Manuel will always be home to me also. My mom and dad (Chuck and Barbara Wasson) moved there in 1956 and I was born in 1957. Growing up in the sixties was filled with great memories, nothing but fun times…I went to First Avenue grade school, 1st grade thru 8th grade. My family moved away in 1970 to New Mexico for a year, then to Tucson, where I have been since 1971.I do get up to San Manuel every now and then, but, have not been there since the stacks came down. They were definitely a landmark that knew I was getting close to home too.
    Thank you Magma Copper, for the opprotunity to live in a small town, and helping my dad raise his family there :)
    For those of you that recognize my name, please feel free to e-mail me as I would love to hear from you.

  16. LARRY BARSTOW "BUCKWHEAT"

    I MOVED TO SAN MANUEL IN 1954, RODE SCHOOL BUS TO FLORENCE HIGH SCHOOL FOR 2 YEARS, WE WERE MENTIONED IN TIME MAGAZINE AS HAVING THE LONGEST SCHOOL BUS RIDE IN THE UNITED STATES, AT THAT TIME. I HAVE PHOTOS OF THE FIRST SMOKE STACK BEING BUILT, AT THE TIME BOTH THE MINE AND MILL WERE BEING CONSTRUCTED. I DID WORK BOTH IN THE MINE AND MILL AFTER GRADUATING HIGH SCHOOL IN 1957, (50TH THIS YEAR)AFTER FLORENCE WE ATTENDED HIGH SCHOOL IN THE BARRACKS (ASK SOME OLDER STUDENTS WHERE THAT WAS!!) MOVED INTO NEW HIGH SCHOOL, PLAYED FOOTBALL, TRACK. MOVED TO TUCSON IN 1961. LAST TIME THERE WAS IN 1987. IT IS VERY SAD THAT US SLIGHTLY OLDER STUDENTS SAW THE BEGINNING AND THE END OF AN ERA. NEVER THOUGHT THAT WOULD HAPPEN. WHEN I WAS INFORMED OF THE “DEATH” OF THE STACKS IT DID BRING SWIFT MEMORIES OF OUR GREAT TOWN! HAVE LIVED IN CALIFORNIA FROM 1966 BUT STILL TREASURE MEMORIES OF HOW ALL US KIDS HAD TO GET ALONG IN THIS TOWN SOOO FAR AWAY FROM TUCSON!!! GO MINERS!!

  17. Arlene

    Wow, I am just reading this today. I live in SC and it was on the news here on January 18th morning. In fact, I called Mom (still living in San Manuel) when I saw it on the news.

  18. mary lee campbell legrand gregory

    CAME TO SAN MANUEL IN 1958 AND WAS A GRAD OF SAN MANUEL IN 1962 MARRIED DARYL LEGRAND ANY ONE REMEMBER MARY LEE CAMPBELL WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU I THINK FLOYD DAVID AND MARY LEGRAND STILL LIVE THERE I WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER THE SMOKE STACKS CAN;T BELIVE THEY ARE GONE AND THE MINE IS CLOSED ..ONLY BE BACK ONCE MAYBE I CAN COME BACK SOMEDAY AGAIN JUST TO RENEW GOOD OLD MEMORIES WAS A GOOD PLACE TO GROW UPP AND GO TO SCHOOL . MARY LEE

  19. Helen

    I was born in Tucson, but I’ve spent my entire life here in San Manuel. I mean, I didn’t see the mine when it was wonderful, not from an adult perspective (I’m not yet 20), but I remember the stacks. It’s hard to come down the curves from Oracle and not see them there…it almost feels like you’re not really going home. My dad worked at the mine as a journeyman mechanic on heavy equipment, my grandfather, grandmother, uncles, cousins and friends’ parents depended on the mine for everything. When it shut down, it felt like the town just stopped and that was it. Even now, nothing is the same. The houses are empty, the streets are bad, and the people are cold. To put it kindly, it sucks.

  20. Angelica

    I remember sitting in the living room of my home in San Manuel and hearing a loud horn that meant is was the end of the work day and I had exactly 5 minutes to clean up what ever mess I was making before my dad came home with the Mel’s Meal ticket that he had promised to give me if I was a good girl that day. I remember the Annual Magma Fouth of July picnics in the park, cruising up town every friday after the football games, and walking to Mel’s with my cousins for their famous jumbo cheese burgers and french cokes. It’s been about 8 years since the last time I stepped foot in my house in San Manuel and I can still remember exactly what it was like to grow up in my little home town, from riding my bike to the pool every every summer, to the day I tried digging for China in the back yard and ended up hitting the water pipes instead. The more I think about it the more I realize just how much fun it really was growing up there. From the front yard of my house, we actually had one of the best views of the smelter, I remember the realter calling it a “desirable scenic view” when we bought the property, I believe the first word that came into my head when I looked outside was “eye sore”. And now, I don’t think the view will be quite as nice without it. One day i’ll go back home and see all the changes my little town has had to go through, good or bad, but till then thanks for helping me realize how much fun it really was to grow up in that little town in the middle of no where.

  21. sara kety

    I have enjoyed reading through everyone’s entries so much and we all must thank you, closet entrepreneur!
    i googled “san manuel” since i am on my way to visit after having left 34 years ago (g-d! i can’t believe i’m old enough to write that!!)…my parents and i moved there in 1971 because my father got a job as head of a department at the hospital (if anyone remembers Dr. Kety that would be amazing to hear from you since he is gone now many years). my older siblings stayed in phoenix with my grandmother, but i, the youngest, had to move. san manuel was the most magical place to me - a wide-eyed 8 year old girl! we lived at the edge of town, which was then across the street from the desert, and had fantastic neighbors - the Johnstones. anybody remember jimmy or christie johnstone?? we had tarantulas in the house, bats in the garage, coyotes in the yard and rattlesnakes everywhere!! now that i am in new york city every day those childhood memories are even that much more precious and cherishable to me. subways, window-washers, pretzel and nut carts on the street, expensive shops and skyscrapers certainly don’t compare!! home is where the heart is!!
    i am so sorry to hear of the demolition and my heart goes out to everyone who was touched by the changes. it certainly dampens the excitement about going back to hear that people have suffered…but like someone said in a previous entry, no one can take away memories.

  22. sergio montes

    I grew up in San Manuel and the thing I remember most about the smoke stacks was recess at both Ave B and 1st Ave elementary’s. I thought I was going to choke to death and someday I would die a horrible death from all the toxins I inhaled. I wonder if there is a long term cancer study in place for San Manuel residents. Breath easy all you surviving San Manuelites.

  23. Melanie

    Seeing that video broke my heart. My grandmother lives there. My family drove from Mesa to San Manuel all the time. My mother would always say ‘look!there’s the smokestacks! And we’d all get excited. We’re almost there! I’ve been in Oklahoma for years now, and I’m going back home, and back to San Manuel for the holidays. And there’s no smokestacks to see, nothing. I don’t like it.

  24. I am not from San Miguel but while reading your story, I felt a tug in my heart and remembered how we felt when Clark Air Base Philippines closed. It’s the main source of livelihood in our city and my parents and almost everybody I know worked there. When it finally closed its doors, the city was like a ghost town, very different from how it used to be.

  25. Rodney Johnson

    I think I even cryed a little hearing that the most perfect little town had grown cold and deserted. I moved from Clearwater Florida to San Manuel with my Mother in 1980 when I was 10 year old and left about 1984. My Mother worked as a secretary for some big wig at Magma who lived in one of those fancy houses on the top of the hills. My childhood memories are nothing short of fond for growing up in such a perfect little town, Riding bicycles until the street lights came on, playing little league for “Cinema” and youth football for the junior Minors-bright orange-yuck! My first kiss, by first hid out in the desert, swimming at the pool on a hot summer day…the memories are endless. I attended 1st Ave and Ave B. I lived on Webb Dr and Ave H. I cant remeber many names but I do remeber the Chuck and Junie Johnson Family the kids names were Buddah, Oatie, and Tucker. Oh and Sean and Tonya Harre. Great people and great memories..Plase holla back if any of this makes sense!

  26. rey pedregon

    I heard the stacks had come down but seeing that on video really choked me up i grew up there 1st grade thru freshman in high school we left in 1978 or 79 . we lived on 5th ave. then on ave j those were truly times i cherish .i took my kids back to see my home town they couldnt believe how small it was we live in san diego now but if i could i would raise my kids in a town just like that. if dino weatherby or donald montes or any of the other dorks i hung out with sees this drop a note and hello.

  27. Sojourner

    (Note: Names have been changed for privacy)
    I first ventured into the town of San Manuel in November of 1978. My brother in law and I had traveled from California, bound for Tucson to find winter work in a very specialized construction trade. On a lark, we decided to steer Ethan’s Ford truck toward San Manuel for a quick visit with relatives who lived there. It was a detour that would alter destinies.

    Arriving in San Manuel later in the evening than expected, we called from a pay phone to announce our arrival, and to say we would just find a motel for the evening. After a short conversation, my brother in law hung-up the phone and filled me in on the details of his conversation. “They said we were being ridiculous, to just stay put and they’ll come get us”. Within a few minutes, a car drove into the dark parking lot.

    “Have you eaten?” She asked. The light was dim and I couldn’t see her well, but at the sound of her voice, something stirred deep within my soul. Whether born of primordial encoding, premonition, or some lingering familiarity from a spiritual preexistence, the feeling came with such force that I shivered from within. “No, we’ll just grab a hamburger some place,” Ethan answered his cousin.

    Without a sound, she smiled knowingly and shook her head no, just as my eyesight adjusted to the dim light. Her smile was perfect, her face angelic, framed and illuminated by soft blonde hair—I was doomed. Ethan and I abandoned our plans for Tucson opting to linger instead in the tiny town of San Manuel. We found work with Magma Copper Company. Ethan went underground; I worked in the smelter, first in the labor pool, then eventually in the coal yard, where I toiled for the balance of the most poignant era of my life.

    At first I denied myself any acknowledgment that I had been smitten by the girl who remains to this day, the only true love of my life. It is with deep sorrow that I report, it is not memories of a happy ending that were invoked by watching the tumbling towers of San Manuel. At first, I avoided contact with Sherri. But fate has its own course to impose on the weak will of mankind, and over the passing weeks, I fell deeply in love with Sherri, and she with me.

    I had never before, nor have I since, known such happiness as I felt while in Sherri’s embrace. She completed me, made of me the man I could never hope to be without her in my life. She was my night and my day, and she was my morning sun. But destiny rides a dark horse, and our life of love together was not to be, but was rent asunder in a flurry of extreme events.

    Thirty years later, I live alone, my children are grown, and I am blessed with a host of beautiful grandchildren. I’ll never know if capitulating to the extortion of outside forces was the right thing to do, but on the day I decided to abandon my plans and betray my commitment to Sherri, a light went out in my life and my morning sun has not since risen.

    I struggled with the ideas of right and wrong, desire and duty, and in the end, gave greater weight to my immediate duties over my own desire, and Sherri’s feelings. I collected my final pay from Magma Copper Company and left San Manuel forever. The greatest regret of my life is the pain and disappointment I caused Sherri to endure.

    She is the finest woman I have ever known. I pray each night that she has found happiness and fulfillment beyond what I might have been able to give her. Of this much I am sure; I wish in my lifetime, that I had been a better man, the man I might have been with Sherri in my life.

    I too hope that San Manuel survives in some new incarnation as a retirement or tourist destination perhaps. But regardless of her future, the mere mention of the name of San Manuel, invokes memories of the girl I once told, “I think you make me love you too much”. And I suppose you still do.

  28. William Cathey

    Sojourner I would be humbled under the tutelage of your writing. Bravo.

  29. Valkyrie

    My parents moved to San Manuel in 1954 from Coolidge. I was 6 months old. We lived at 624 4th avenue and I can remember going to 1st avenue elementary school in 2nd, 3rd and 4th grades. In fourth grade I can still remember the speech ‘if you see the flash, stop, drop and cover your head’ as we all had to practice ducking under our desk in case of a nuclear attack (yeah right like that would help!). The year was 1962. That same year I can remember Bobby Vinton coming out with Roses are Red and all the girls singing it :) I remember three friends that I miss: Kim Simmons, Mike Ballard and Steve Hernandez. They were great!
    We moved to Tucson in 1963 for a couple of years and returned to San Manuel in 1965 where we lived at 925 5th avenue. I went to 7th, 8th and 9th grades there. Finally we moved in 1968 to New Orleans because of a strike and my dad had enough so he got a job on the oil rigs in the gulf of Mexico.
    I haven’t been back since (40 years).
    I now live in Lawrence Kansas home to the University of Kansas and the Kansas Jayhawks. I am planning a motorcycle ride down to Safford to visit my brother and I think I may just swing by and see the old town. I’m sure all the people that I knew are long gone, but it would be worth the trip just to bring back memories of growing up there.

  30. Valkyrie

    And yes the stacks will be missed :-(

  31. Chris

    Have You Ever Thought About Putting this on Youtube

  32. TOMAS

    Hi Chris, thanks for the feedback. I know that the smokestack demolition is on YouTube for sure, but I don’t think the video from the Arizona Daily Star is.

  33. Chris

    HeyTomas the daily star video is the one i was wondering about if it was on youtube or not that would be cool if it was get it alot more exposure. i almost cried when i saw that video and i am not even from San Manuel i am from Superior.

  34. joyce

    we moved to san manuel in 1956 I went to school 1-12grade .I remember how simple our life was ,all our medical care ,the really cheap rent lol the strikes , I married there,had my first child there.
    my mom still lives on fifth . I have been living in Tx for the last 21 years but still think of san manuel as home and return often. It is so sad how the closing of mine changed the life of so many loyal employees,we may be scattered all over the country now but we will always have our history .

  35. Andrea Montes

    My Grandparents raised my father and the rest of their family here. I also just read my father’s very synical (but not out of character for those who know him (Sergio Montes) comments about the smoke stacks. I remember that long drive up Reddington road every summer. My brother and I spent the best summer’s visiting our parent’s old stomping grounds. Even in the 80’s and 90’s I remember us just being able to run free and play with no worries because this was such a wonderful, tight knit community. My brother and I recently visited San Manuel after about 10 years, It was sooooooooo weird not seeing the stacks as we rounded the oracle corner. Oh by the way Ray, My uncle Donald Montes still lives in San Manuel and is doing well. I tried to find a way to email you but couldn’t find a link, maybe you’ll see this.

  36. Gina Ambrister-Vondrell

    I was Lucky enough to attend San Manuel High School my Senior year-1973-In that one year I made friendships that have continued on till this very day–Because of an incident with my StepDad- I left home in January of 1973 and lived with Donna Chambers family over by the Avenue A school–they were wonderful to me and I apprediate their kindness to this day–but because I felt that I was coming between Donna and her parents- ( since I was a couple of years older than her they would let me do things that they were not ready for her to do)–anyway I had one more month of school until Graduation-so I moved in with another friend–Rose Marie Delzer’s parents welcomed me into their home to finish out the year–and Rose and I are still in contact till this day–that leads me to another family who totally adopted me as their Own-even though I never lived in their home-(unless daily visits after schooll counts) that would be Ernest and Mary Ivy-and of course their “Boys”-I was lucky enough to make the Very First squad of “Mat Maids” for wrestling at SMHS-and since all of thir “Boys” were wrestlers I met the whole family at the meets– Now,since I didn’t have my parents around and I needed rides to the meets Mom Ivy decided I could ride with them she was very careful because girls had gotten her in trouble hitching rides to the meets without getting permission from their parents–but she knew that the Chambers gave me permission to Always ride with them. And so that began a Love and feeling of Gratitude that will never end-
    -Ernie Jr., Henry and I were Graduating together and on the Graduation cake at the party it said “Congratulation to Our Kids”–Ernie –Henry– and Gina”
    To a 17 year old girl away from Both of her parents -that meant the world to me and Still does–But thats how the people in San Manuel were–Loving and Giving-Even though some may think that they didn’t have much back then it was the Love and Friendships in the mining community that helped make San Manuel such a special place to live.
    As time goes by some of our loved ones got into things that lead to rough times in their life and then to death. As you- who live there now may know- we lost Henry Ivy in July of 03 and then our “Mom” in 04. I am still in contact with Dad Ivy and Charley-Richard and Ernie–I truly can’t express how safe they all made a young girl feel at a new school –with no blood family around. Every day-each one of the Boys would make sure that I had money for lunch (which we usually ate at the Liquor Store-Uptown) and a ride wherever it may be that I needed to go-They truly made me feel like a “Little Sister”-Mom Ivy always said I was the Daughter she always wanted but never had -for Mom’s funeral –as I drove in from Tucson in my rental car–I knew that I was getting close when I could see the Smoke Stacks-I couldn’t help but feel some excitement even though I was there for such a horrible occasion-something was missing? Ah, yes, it was the Smelter Smoke–It was very sad for me to see that my “Special Place” was becoming almost like a Ghost town–so many homes were either empty or for sale-I hope that it does become a Retirement community -what a waste of beautiful desert land– it was Wonderful feeling so safe in San Manuel in “73″. Nothing is better than the smell of the desert after a rain-talk about memories!!
    I know that I will return there some day–but it won’t be the same without the Smoke Stacks–but I so appreciate the fact that I happened upon this site so that I could watch the video of the “End of an Era”. But Never Forgotten!!!
    I don’t know if anyone from the class of “73 would remember me– but if you would like to email me I would be glad to hear from you—35 years May 31st–
    -The day after Graduation at 7;00 A.M.- I went with my Real- Dad and my Stepmother back to Ohio where I was origially from-and have lived there ever since–I have been married for 34 years inOctober and have 5 children and 1 grandaughter-
    San Manuel will always hold a very special place in my heart as will all the people who made it my “Safe Haven”.
    Thanks for listenting to me ramble– but I just had to share my personal thoughts on this Video-and my experience as a “Miner”
    -Sincerely Gina Ambrister/Vondrell
    gvondrell@yahoo.com

  37. Rose Marie Delzer Milam

    I have managed to stay in the Tri-area for over 40 years now and go to San Manuel to visit my mother. Talk about something missing. We were on my mom’s roof at lower 6th Ave. to watch the stacks come down. Trust me, there were tears flowing down my checks. I too remember when the 2nd stack went up, I remember when “Green Peace” protested. I rememebr the star on the stack at Christmas time. It will always be home to so many of us, but like everything in this world, we must go on. Wish the folks who live there now the best of everything and hope they will have memories like we do.
    Rose Marie Milam (Delzer/Carender)

  38. Charley Ivy

    Sara,
    The Johnstones you are looking for are both passed away, Jimmy many years ago in Vegas & Christie just recently in Calif. Their parents and sister Kathy live in Marana, AZ.

    I too was raised in good ole SM. I was born in Superior but my folks moved to SanManuel when I was 6mo. old. That was 1956, a pretty good year I think. San Manuel in the 60’s & 70’s was a fantastic place to be! It was back when neighbors could and would take care of business if you stepped too far out of line. It was acceptable. People took care of each other back then. Looking back, I, for one miss the the days when adults were in charge and took the responsibility.
    Enough of that ,
    back to San Manuel - for all of us “kids”, students, classmates, friends & lovers during the time when San Manuel was at it’s peak or hayday, let me say it was a BLAST to be a part of that history. I’m proud to say I’m from San Manuel and it will always be HOME.
    I didn’t make it to the stacks final moments mostly because of emotions I knew everyone would see, so I quitetly tapped at my wrist watch at the appointed time and pondered the the flood of memories of years past.
    I would like to say to all of you San Manuel die hards HERES TO YOU and my heart is with you. By the way when you guys see Grandad Ivy around town remember he’s been there since 1956, a life time in its self. God Bless
    One last thing to say - I miss you Mom! - I miss you Hank!

  39. Laura Nameth

    I moved to San Manuel in 1971. My brother , Joe, and I graduated from San Manuel High School in 1973. I’ve been in Phoenix for the last 20 years and the rest of my family has moved about the country to different locations, but I still think of San Manuel as where I’m ‘from’. My dad , Steve, retired 16 years ago and moved back to San Manuel, where he bought a house on Ave . I
    When I go down to visit him I always feel something deep inside when I see those stacks. I haven’t been there since they came down and I don’t know how it will feel when I won’t see them after coming up from the second “dip” on the hill down from Oracle. I do know that when I saw the picture of it in the Arizona Republic’s business section it literally brought tears to my eyes. I always thought the mine would start up production again, until I saw that picture.
    Rose (Carender) do you remember me? I still have this picture of you and me and a bunch of us camping on the beach in Rocky Point, Mexico about 1980, I think it was. Remember?
    That is so cool that you have been able to stay in the area all these years. I’m about ready to move back there myself, altho , realistically , it probably won’t be for a few more years.
    Gina Ambrister…. your name is so familiar, but I just can’t seem to put a face to it.
    If anyone out there reading this remembers me, please feel free to email me. And , Rose, I would love to hear from you. My email address is : barkeep86@yahoo.com
    I still have a T shirt that says “Where the hell is San Manuel?”
    I’m so glad I stumbled upon this website. Thank you , ‘Closet Guy’ whoever you are ! Sincerely, Laura Nameth

  40. JJamie Dicus

    What a wonderful treat to receive this great site! Joellen Thomas
    forwarded this to us. To LARRY BARSTOW , so very glad to remember all the good times John and I had with the Barstow family as neighbors. Such a wonderful family, Mrs. Barstow helped me so much as I learned how to be a Mom, and how to open the door when Debbie locked me out! John sold THE DICUS
    just 8 months before the shut-down. People still ask him to “Please buy it back”. It’s so neat to hear people still say,”Met me at the “Dicus”. John is continuing his love of kids and school and helps with different projects. I really think he should be a “Town Greeter.” Wal-Mart has nothing on San Manuel!!!
    We have lived in the same house for 52 years and are very sure that we will always be at home in SAN MANUEL. The day THE STASTACKS came down will always be remembered. Everything good or bad that has happened to our family flashed before me, and I felt that truly our lives had changed forever, no longer could I hope that events might change. This is for REAL.
    How fortunate we are to have such wonderful memories, such caring friends, and experiences that only come from living in San Manuel. The town has had its ups and downs, but like John always says, “We just push a little harder” and keep going. San Manuel has always been and continues to be “A good Place toLive”his motto for the many years he had “The Dicus.”
    We enjoy hearing from anyone who’d like to email us.
    triplej@theriver.
    Thank all of you for posting. Hope to hear from all of you!
    Smiles, hugs and yes, a few tears too.
    John and Jamie Dicus
    918 N. Webb
    San Manuel, AZ 85631

  41. i have been in san manuel since 1955-kay wood-and nothing has hurt me as bad as the stacks coming down-did not watch-just sat in my house crying.i met my husband-35 yrs-when they put up second stack.this is still my town-but it is so different now.i will never forget all of the good times!

  42. Melanie

    I went back to see my dear grandmother Mac Voy Walker, (my grandfather Owen Walker has passed away) on 6th Ave this past holiday season. The heartbreak of not seeing the smokestacks - I have no words for it. This site is so wonderful. I didn’t know so many people knew and loved San Manuel like I do. And to see what the desert behind her house looks like now. I cried. I guess that lovely, beautiful desert I grew up playing in is becoming a dump/dirt bike track now. It hurts so much to go back. The memories will always be there though. At least all of us here have that…

  43. Joellen

    Greetings,
    This site seems to be getting lots of action, so thought I’d use it to drum up folks from the Class of 1978. (You can also see my thoughts written above, back in July 2007).

    In anticipation of the 30 year reunion in 2008 for the SMHS class of 1978, a separate email account has been set up to collect information in order to build a database of names, addresses, emails etc. Please send an email to Joellen (Thomas) Brown at
    smhs1978reunion@yahoo.com in order to get on the database to receive information as plans proceed. For now, just send your name (maiden name too if married), email address and your mailing address. Please forward this to anyone in the class you may have on your address list. Also, if you know of anyone in the class who is no longer with us, please pass along their name and date (year) of death, if you know it. I will begin to build a database in anticipation of the big event. If you want to help with the plans, please let me know that also and I will share that information with who ever becomes our fearless leader.

    Thanks for your response, and hope to see you there!

  44. Penny Ramsay (Tippetts)

    I grew up in san manual and my dad was an engineer or the railroad for many years. I did quite alot in that little town! Still live in Oracle. I don’t know if I will ever call anywhere else home. And to Charley Ivy Thanks for being there for me when I was growing up. Tell pops I said Hi. I don’t get to san manual much even though I live only a few minutes away. And I agree that it is very hard seeing the skyline without the sillouette of the stacks. I spent 31 years looking at that skyline! Thanks for putting up this site!
    Penny Ramsay (Tippetts)

  45. It is bittersweet reading all of these messages. I remember the day we moved to San Manuel. My dad pointed at the smelter tower and assured me that “it never stops”. There was only one then you know.

    I recall living up at the top of 4th Ave. San Manuel is on the side of a mountain. In the rainy season the road became a wash with two feet of water rushing down into town. That’s why many of the roads were designed in concave fashion.

    Much of my early life was spent out in the desert. I can still remember the smell of broken cholla. It is a sweet thing unlike anything else in the world. I well remember the simple trick of getting jumping cholla off of your leg. You put a stick under it and flick the whole thing at once. If you try to pull it up slow it hurts like the devil.

    I lived in San Manuel only four years. We moved down into Tucson where my dad commuted back to the mines. Years later his last job before retirement was working as a quality assurance engineer for Bechtel, digging the subway systems around Washington, DC.

    Thank you all for your messages. It reminds me of where I come from.

    Regards,
    Bud Houston

  46. Avnel Hogan

    It’s hard to believe were coming up on 9 yrs that the mine has been shut down.I too like many, like many others have moved away. Since I am currently only two hours away I do get to visit often. It is just not the same going down the Oracle hill and not seeing the stacks anymore. Change is always hard and it can seem as if San Manuel has lost its lustre but I think it is only a matter of time before people once again appreciate the beauty of that little valley. The mine may have been the reason for starting the town, but it is still a pretty little place. Tombstone is the town too tough to die, could San Manuel be the town too treasured to die. It seems we all have great memories about growing up there and for many of us no matter how far we may roam, San Manuel will always be home.

  47. Debbie Douglas (Sheridan)

    I moved away from Oracle a long time ago (summer of 1973…I believe), but have always considered it home. I remembered traveling on the school bus to SMHS and seeing the stacks as soon as we were getting close to town. A few years ago, I was passing through while on vacation and the memories…those wonderful memories…came flooding back. My children, who were teenagers then, could not figure out why I had gotten so teary-eyed. I tried to explain to them about my memories of SMHS…without the the fencing (that was a shock), about the hamburger joint which had the best hamburgers, the great friends that I had, still have and those whom I have lost. The list goes on. At least I was able to explain to them the smoke stacks while there were still standing.

    I remember a class I had as a sophomore where the teacher asked what we planned to do after we graduated. A large marjority of the guys said that they had planned to work in the mine. All I could think of at the time was that there was so much more out there…I couldn’t understand why anyone would stick around to work the mines. Oh, if only I had the foresight to see what would happen years later. Little did I know what would happen when the mines shut down and the changes it brought to the town and surrounding area. What I would give to go back and try to prevent this from happening…alas, I cannot.

    To those of you “die-hards”…thanks for hanging in there and keeping the history…and the town…alive!

  48. Laura Nameth

    I see that Joellen is rounding up recruits for the ‘78 class reunion.
    Is anyone trying to organize a reunion for the class of ‘73?
    35 years for us. Anyone out there know if there is a reunion planned?
    Laura Nameth

  49. Laura Nameth

    I just told my sister in law , Barbara Matier Nameth, about this site and then I came back to it myself and read all of the posts all over again and just cried thru the whole thing ,again. Wish I could just click my heels together 3 times and say”there’s no place like home” But with my luck I’d end up in Kansas instead of San Manuel

    Laura

  50. Barbara Matier-Nameth

    I just found out about this site, and had to check it out. I left SM in 1980, and have lived in Elko, NV every since. Another small mining town, just alot colder. There are MANY people living here in Elko that came from SM. I have occasion to visit SM once in a while, as my father-in-law still lives there, but I haven’t been back since the stacks came down. Speaking of tears, the video was enough to make them start flowing. I too thoroughly enjoyed growing up in SM, it was a blast! Now my children have grown up in another mining town, but they know very well some great stories about SM. I wouldn’t trade having grown up there for anything. Thanks to those that keep it alive so the rest of us have a hometown to return to occasionally. I graduated in 1979, and have never been notified of any of my class’s reunions. 2009 will be our 30 year, if anyone knows anything about the reunion, please clue me in.
    Thanks,
    Barbara Matier-Nameth

  51. Valkyrie

    Laura,

    LOL

    Don’t feel bad, I am in Kansas!!! But after nearly thrity years of living here, it still isn’t San Manuel :(

  52. Laura Nameth

    Valkyrie,

    Thanks for not being offended by my comment about ending up in Kansas. I’m glad you took it the way it was intended, just a bit of humor.I’ve never been to Kansas and have nothing against it; but you’re right–it isn’t San Manuel!

    Laura Nameth

  53. Valkyrie

    I plan on riding my bike down to San Manuel in the first part of June. If there is anyone still there that remembers me and would like to say hi, please drop me an email. By the way, ‘Valkyrie’ is the type of motorcycle I ride. My name is Wes Ellison and my email is ellison@ku.edu.

    Tomas, great job on this site !!!

  54. SP

    Good old San Manuel. I remember waiting for my dad to come home after the horn blew, walking through the desert with his lunchbox to S 5th St. We had a clear view of the crusher, mill and stacks from there, quite a site to behold. Called my dad 1/17/07 to tell him I would pick him up to go see the end of an era, he was sick with the flu and couldn’t make it, couldn’t stand to go by myself so I watched it on the news.

    AHH, but the memories are still there, making ourselves dizzy cruising the circle, trying to find someone to buy you a 12-pack so you could go to the party between the hills or up at the circles, playing at the river on Easter. Remember when there was two grocery stores (verns AND gordons).

    I wouldn’t trade anything in the world for all the good and bad times that happened in San Manuel. Getting in trouble at school and your mom knowing about it by the time you got home, OH in high school. Home is home and thats where it will always be.

    The hardest part for me was when BHP shut everything down. Getting phone calls from friends that I have known for years, looking for work and having to ask them what kind of money they were looking for and what they were willing to do and then having to turn them down because I couldn’t offer them what they were looking for.

    I still go there every once in awhile, have a double cheese burger at Mels and think about growing up. It is very ironic to look at copper prices now and think about how that place would be if BHP had just held out for a few more months.

    I am with Charlie I, Jamie D and the rest, Heres to all you San Manuelites! This ones for you!!!

  55. Delores Monreal

    I remember the stacks of the mine every morning on the way to San Manuel highschool the school bus would ride right by it and now seeing the demolition video it makes me upset that they would take the heart out of San Manuel.

  56. Amber Morris

    I grew up in San Manuel and I was so hart broken when the took down the stacks. I no longer live in that little sleepy town like so many others my family moved when my dad, who had worked at the mines sense he finished high school, lost his job. We tryed to stay but found no posibel way in wich we could do that. To this day i still miss that little town and will alwas remember my childhood there. There is nothing like the destert in the summer or going down to the pool with your friends.

  57. cindy hyde

    I was born in San Manuel in 1960, my parents moved there when my mom was pregnant with me! My dad worked on the reverbs for years and i went to 1st grade at Ave. A and then we moved to McNab and i went to Ave B school! Joellen, Barb, Beth, Nancy, Debby Trejo, Aline White, Shawna Listiak, Fonda, Danny M., Ronny R., Robles boys, Jimmy N., Theron,Fred Winkler, Kiven Forman, Freddy R., Tutti, Frank G., Carol T., and so many others, all great friends! I have missed you all so much! My dad took a job at the new smelter in Playas, NM in July of ‘75. I didn’t want to move! I married and now live in Silver City, NM. My dad retired from Phelps Dodge in Playas and moved to Arkansas for several years until after the death of my oldest brother, Bimbo Hyde! So my folks are back in San Manuel and I visit from time to time! I cried when I watched the video of the stacks coming down! After the stacks at San Manuel were demolished the stacks at Playas and the ones in Hurley, NM came down as well. I was able to be there when the stacks came down in Hurley but I did not feel the heartbreak that I felt for the ones in San Manuel! I also think of San Manuel as my hometown even though I was only 15 when we moved! I was just in San Manuel last weekend and it was so sad to see so many houses empty and many with boarded up windows! I will always remember walking to the ball games and uptown! I remember when the drug store was where the station with Subway is now! Eating lunch there and then the drug store moved up the strip and Leo’s moved in! Now uptown is pretty sad looking! I can’t hardly believe that Gordon’s is still there! These things are difficult and hurt our hearts, but look how many of us have now found old friends we haven’t heard from in years! Joellen you are the best! I am really hoping that the date for the reunion works out where I can come and visit with all of you although I moved after my freshman year! My wish for all of you is to have a good and happy life!
    Cindy Hyde

  58. cindy hyde

    oh, didn’t mean to leave you out Sergio! And Tony Almindinger! I am sure there are many who escape my mind right now, but I have thought of you all through the years and miss all of you! Oh and I must add Herman Blackburn!
    Cindy Hyde

  59. I found this site on purpose — I found your town by accident — and had to learn more about San Manuel, the place that saved my composure. It all started with a random private sightseeing trip. I chose Redington Pass, entering it out of Tucson. Bad idea. After being lost on the Pass (nobody told me it went on “forever”), I got a flat tire. No phone. No passing cars.No fix-it ability. But what really shook me up was realizing that not only was the sun going down, but it seemed to being going down in the north. Sanity returned and I realized that the sun must be where it should be, so apparently I was NOT (I’d thought I was headed east)..and eventually (on three tires) made it to your town with the help of a passing cowboy. It’s incidents like that helpful man and your blessed town that keep me being an optimist.

    This finally brings me to one of the purposes of this note: The passing cowboy owns what he described as the last ranch in the area. I repeated the name he gave me but have forgotten it (of course). It was a long last name, made up of two anglo words, something like “Applehouse”, thought that’s not quite right. I’d like to thank him. I didn’t have much money so I couldn’t offer that. He refused my cigarettes (smart man). I think he said his HQ is in what’s left of Redington. PLEASE, CAN ANYONE GET HIS NAME TO ME? ADDRESS, TOO, IF POSSIBLE.

    Second purpose: All your notes about San Manuel made me cry, too. I also grew up in a smallish town (up north) where I could play in the empty lots, woods, fields, even a swamp. My grandboys live in New York City and I weep for them, too. Such fun we had. Such adventures. Yes, we heard “don’t talk to strangers” but that wasn’t much of a danger since we knew nearly everyone. My grandboys, 7 and 9, can’t go out without an adult and usually also with their big dog. Can you imagine a big dog in a 3-room apartment? SO, KEEP YOUR SMALLTOWN ROOTS. LET YOUR KIDS WANDER. LET THEM PLAY FREE. If you live in Oracle, or worse, Tucson, or worst of all, Phoenix. Take them out of town at every opportunity. You’ll be rewarded with happier, more self-confident, and much braver kids. You? You’ll have fun watching and remembering.

    Lastly, after I get a new spare tire, I’m going to drive up from my place in Green Valley to San Manuel to get a daytime view of your wonderful town and if I can find her, thank the super kind woman at the gas station/grocery for her time, support, directions and the use of their facilities (in no special order of importance).

    For all you people of San Manuel and vicinity, true blessings upon you. And heartfelt thanks!

  60. I wrote the way-too-long message above. I’ll be briefer this time.
    1.Now I know that Redington-as-a-town is no longer - it’s housing and headquarters for the large ranch that owns it and much more. Can I write or call them, just to say thanks?

    2. The flat tire I got while traversing the pass has morphed into a need for five new tires, a new ABS system and, not surprisingly, a car wash. Over $600. But the scenery I saw, the marvelous people I met, the frazzled nerves I overcame — priceless.

    I still look forward to seeing San Manuel — in daylight. Thanks again.

  61. vic corona

    well i came back to san manuel, it sure was great! I lost a brother this year he was from san manuel, like the stacks i will never forget him and the way he loved his home town!

  62. William Cathey

    Vic, your name sure sounds familiar, and I had thought that on one of your earlier posts but didn’t ask. I couldn’t help but wonder if you may have been one of my sisters friends (Kellie Cathey).
    At any rate, sorry for your loss.

    Will

  63. Jennifer Aguirre

    This is a great site- I found it completely ny accident… I am a native of San Manuel, and like many of us, I have a strong connection to the mine and what it meant for our community. I was with my father- watching as the stacks came crashing down. I felt helpless as I watched- and cried… After the community lost so much with the closing of the mine, as well as the loss my family suffered when Beto was killed there, it felt as though everything was being taken away. It seemed as though all of the blood, sweat, and tears that was put into the building of this community was being erased before my very eyes. There is no longer that feeling of coming “home” with out the stacks there on the horizon to remind you of what you’re made of… Although, the stacks are gone, we will NEVER forget.

  64. Susan

    Wow! This has brought back so many memories! I was born in San Manuel & lived there until 5th grade, I moved away after my parents divorce but went back every summer to stay with my dad, my sister & her family still live in San Manuel & on the day the stacks were dropped I stayed home from work & cried. My 13 & 8 year olds didn’t understand, but they sat & cried with me. We went down a few months after the drop & my daughter ended up at a party that the town was giving as a new start to San Manuel but we all know San Manuel will always be thought of as a miners town….. I loved growing up there & have very many wonderful memories, I know everytime I go down to visit I really miss seeing the stacks! Thanks to everyone for their positive comments & the memories you made me remember!

  65. Robert Fritts

    I joined the military after I graduated SMHS in “78″ and left AZ for over 20years. I could always remember Uptown, Softball games, Football games, and drinking beer at the “circles”. Most of all I have wonderful memories of all of the people in my brothers and I were lucky enough to get to know. Sugar Bear Ivy and Manny Ubeta who played catch with me in the football locker room when I was a 85lb freshman. Sergio, John Haro, Ronny Rodriguez, Stevie P. Everyone that Drag raced, Riding dirt bikes in OUR desert. All the wonderful ladies who made our great meals at SMHS before they went to fast food. All of the Coronas. DD & Authur and the Halls. My second Parents, the Urquijos on 6th Ave. So many that I cannot recall and include you all. My brothers and I were military brats and moved every couple of years, we never had a HOMETOWN until my dad moved us to San Manuel.
    Sitting in the Iraqi desert between Basarah and Nassiriya after the 1st Gulf war, talking with my team about food I end up in the mother of all fights because some Captain from Georgia can’t accept that Nothing else in the world is better than a Jumbo Cheeseburger from “Mel’s”, with a grenn chile burrito on the side, thrashed him good.
    My parents carried on at the Western Auto until the Mine closed. My neice and nephew graduated from SMHS recently and my brother Chuck still lives in San Manuel,but when my parents moved to Tucson it was like a ending for me.
    We folks from San Manuel our family. We take care of each other, we fight alot, we sometimes really hate each other. But let a outsider mess with us and family closes ranks.
    Yes, Sergio that sulfur taste from the smelter was awful, running hills with Angel Trejo and Peter Acosta until Coach Roybal got tired made us men. The Stacks came down and a little bit of my life and family died.Peace, Prosperity, Love and Happiness to you all.

  66. Valkyrie

    Well I rode into San Manuel for the first time in 40 years one week ago today (May 31 2008). I stopped at the Salt and Pepper gas station (used to be a 76 station) for gas and just stood there looking where the stacks had been. It just didn’t seem right. It was like another place. I headed on up McNab to Webb and over to 4th where I grew up. The house looked pretty much the same save for a bay window in the front. I sat there on the bike just thinking about how it was nearly a half century ago. Such good times back then. Then I rode over to 5th and by the place I lived in the mid 60’s. It didn’t even look anything like it used to. It looked like a condo! Sad. Then over to first ave. elementary school. I pulled into the parking lot and shut the bike off and just sat there. The rooms I had gone to 2nd grade, 3rd grade and 4th grades was still there. I had to laugh as now they are called the Bulldogs!!!! We didn’t have a name back in the early 60’s. The friends that I knew who lived around the school, their houses looked the pretty much the same. I started the bike and went down past the baseball diamonds. I had completely forgotten they were there. Then down A ave and the strip. It was so sad to see all of the boarded up store windows. The Triple XXX lounge was replaced by Beas Bar which was closed. And suddenly there was Gordons! I can’t believe that they are still there.
    Then I stopped at a place that used to be the drug store. It is now a mini mart called Arizona Fuel. I remember getting green rivers at the drug store and my first little girl friend (Dixie Cage) and I getting into trouble there for stealing a bag of candy and sitting on the floor eating it. We were like 4 years old :-) I got to talking to a really pretty girl behind the counter and she and I talked about how the place had changed. She didn’t remember the old 50’s and 60’s San Manuel but with that pretty smile, she would have fit right in.
    I left there and rode back to 77 highway and just sat at the stop sign for a bit. I realized that my San Manuel went with me in 1968. San Manuel was no longer the home town that I remember. I was a stranger and it wasn’t home anymore. I headed out to the junction, not looking back as now I can close that chapter and say good bye

  67. sergio montes

    Bobby Fritts, good to see you are alive and well.

  68. Barb Collins Kranking

    This is a great web-site. I loved reading about all the people who loved SM and the smokestakes. We were all sitting on top of my dad’s garage (Bob & JoAnne Collins) when the stakes came down. It was very overwhelming!! My son Daniel was there and still comments about how very weird it is to come down the hill from Oracle and not see the stacks. I have very fond memories of SM and all my friends that I still keep in contact with.

    I hope all of my classmates try to come to the reunion this summer. It’ll be fun to catch up with each other.

    Wanted to say hi to Cindy Hyde, we had lots of fun in grade school, thanks for remembering all of us!!! :)

    Barb Collins Kranking

  69. Cindy Hyde

    Hey Barb,

    I could never forget all of the friends I grew up with in San Manuel! I have been gone from there for so many years now but when asked where I am from, I still say that originally I am from San Manuel, Arizona! Drop me a line! Beth has my e-mail address! Say “hey” to the gang for me!
    Cindy Hyde

  70. vic corona

    will i am 48 years old, i don’t remember cathey is she my age? i went to ave b elm for a short time then moved to mammoth untill 7th grqade then moved to tucson.i have a very large family 17 of us all in and around san manuel many of my brothers worked for magma copper co. i am sure that cathey knows one of us or me? thank for asking it’s great to respond to others from my home town’s take care vic!

  71. William Cathey

    Likely A family member I must be thginking of then Vic, although the age is close, she is…47 now I’m thinking. She must have graduated in 79 or 80? Actually her first name is Kellie, last name Cathey…common mistake. Anyhoo…my mistake.

  72. sergio montes

    Just an observation, I love this website. Everyday I get to my office and the first thing I do is read email, by far, this is the most entertaining. There seems to be a common thread amongst us, “we all love Mels burgers”, and therefore I want to pay tribute to the Zazueta girls, they were and may still be, the best pattie flippers in the business. Ernestina, where ever you are, if you happent to be in the Phoenix area, please look me up, I would love to have you over for a BBQ.

  73. Joellen (Thomas) Brown

    Sergio and all,
    Just this past Saturday, I had a most tasty cheeseburger deluxe at Mel’s flipped by Ernestina! I have always told my family that all is right and well in the world when I can walk in Mel’s and see a Zazueta. Very funny that you are tuned into that also. Love those burgers. Can I stop in for a BBQ at your house too??!!

  74. Arlene Bonney

    I miss those Mels burgers. Greasy and good! My friend Cynthia and I use to go to Mels during lunch at school. As I am sure it was the place for all HS students.

    My family is the Chavez family from Mammoth. But to me the tri-county is all the same. I love the small towns and the Arizona desert.

  75. sergio montes

    Hey Joellen Bo Bellen!!!

    I heard through the grapevine that you skipped town and got hitched. Good 4 you!!!! You seem to be the thread that bind us old farts together. Yes, you can BBQ at my home anytime. Lori and I were talking about you, your ears must have been tingling. Kids are grown, life is good.

  76. Rodney Johnson

    I moved to San Manuel from Clearwater FL in 1979 when I was in third grade my Mom got a job as a secretary for one of the big wigs at Magma, I remeber that he lived in one of those “Mansion” at the top of the hill on Webb.

    My mom and I would go to Mamoth and eat at the absolute BEST Mexican resturant. I can’t remember the name but it right on the main road as you get into Mamoth, they had a juke box that had the best music on it!

    But I have to say that Mel’s was unbelievable! I still compare every burger and burito to Mel’s. I remeber the dog days of summer, after scowering the destert on bicycles hunting horny toads we would raid the pool…then it was off to Mel’s for a plain cheese and bean burito.

    Now thats what memories are made of!!

  77. Joe G

    The restaurants in Mammoth were La Casita on the hill on the left and the Redwood Cafe on the north end of town. I worked there in 1980, fresh out of college and worked on the fire department as well. great times.

  78. Joellen (Thomas) Brown

    Hey Sergio,
    Glad you haven’t forgotten me! Do you still sneak to San Manuel for a Mel’s burger??!! Send me a note thru the class reunion email at smhs1978reunion@yahoo.com then we can really get caught up. (Anyone else from the class of 78 please send me a note too… reunion is in planning stages!)

    Many times when we roll into San Manuel, we hit Mel’s for lunch, then head to Mammoth and La Casita for dinner. Now if that isn’t the life!

  79. Helen

    In Mammoth now, there’s La Casita of course, but also Alicia’s and now Cassandra’s, both of which I’ve heard are pretty good. The place in SM that used to be Carmelita’s is now La Hacienda, and, I’m sorry if I offend anyone, but over 30 minsutes for a bean burro is ridiculous. I won’t go there again. LOL, this turned into a restaurant review. In short, all of the restaurants except Mel’s and La Casita (and maybe San Pedro Pizza) has changed…

  80. Dan Cervantez

    Hello All. I stumbled upon this site by accident tonight while I was showing my wife on google maps the house I spent my first 6 years of life in. A side point for all of you- google maps now has a “street view” feature which allows you to see the city at the time google drove through (not sure when that was). I found the house I lived in, 182 S. Mcnabb. For those who have not been back you will really enjoy this.
    Anyway, I was born at the hospital in San Manuel in 1966 and moved to Tucson in December of 1973 and have lived here ever since. I don’t have the emotional connection that many of you have but I was mesmerized by the comments from all of you who have posted and could not stop reading until I finished all of them. The history lessons are greatly appreciated. My Grandparents, Antonio R. & Maria C. Cervantez, completed raising there 6 children in San Manuel. My Mother was Maria Louisa. My Grandpa worked for Magma until his death in the early 70’s. My mother had since moved away and my grandparents had adopted me. My Gradma and I moved to Tucson shortly after that.
    I went to kindergarten and 1/2 of 1st grade at Avenue B elementary when they still had corporal punishment (swats with a paddle) and I got a few of those. I remember my first grade teacher well, Mrs. Carpenter. She was very kind and understanding and didn’t swat too hard. Some of my uncles and aunts new her well and when she was dying of cancer we went to visit her in San Manuel and she was still the kind person I had remembered.
    Lets see, I remember Valley National Bank, the drug store on the corner of the same little mall, a woolworth’s type of store that smelled like mothballs, a burger place that may have been Mel’s by the high school, and of course, the smokestacks.
    Coming down from Oracle you could see them clearly. A little further and you would hit the crossroad to Mammoth then there would come a big dip, the drive-in, the Ford dealership to the right and your last view of the stacks to the left before we turned right onto Mcnab (which we always did). The hospital to the left and the rest was residential until you hit the little mall I spoke about previously.
    My grandma’s brother and his wife, Neto and Petra Marques, still lived there and we would go visit them from time to time while I was growing up.
    My uncles and aunts all graduated from San Manuel High. I remember how excited I was to get bussed from the elementary school to the high school to eat lunch. I recall the first time clearly. I thought that they would make you eat everything they served you and I was worried because I hated vegetables. Thankfully, I did not have to eat my vegetables, although I like them now.
    I have met a lot of people who grew up in SanManuel, Mammoth, and Oracle and I am always proud to say that I was born there. Since I moved to Tucson at such a young age I consider it my hometown also. But there seems to me to be more of a connection with someone I meet who is from those small towns. Now I know why. In such a small town we all went to the same places, did the same things, new the same people. That is something special in this modern age that we can be happy we experienced and sad because are children can’t.
    While I was showing my wife the goolge stuff she remarked that we should take our kids back there to show them where I lived. I certainly will and, thanks to all of you, we will try one of those Mel’s cheeseburgers.

  81. Laura Nameth

    Dan, you might also want to take your wife to the Casita in Mammoth for the best chili rellenos in the state. I always order a #4 (taco, cheese enchilada, and chili relleno). One year on cinco de mayo , I drove all the way from Phoenix for a relleno at the Casita, because I just couldn’t find a decent one in this metropolitan valley. When I got there and ordered a #4 they informed me that they were all out of rellenos and it broke my heart! Give them a try. For Mexican food , they are the best.
    And Mel’s is the best for a hamburger.

  82. vic corona

    i agree la casita is the best! i grew up with pete jr all the family is great.i was with pete in march of 2008 he and his family are very kind and giving. thank’s for all that the la casita and family did for my brother frank.

  83. Pastor Dean Mead

    It was wonderful to find this website, see the videos, and read all the stories. So many names ring long-forgotten memories of times that were good.
    We have visited San Manuel twice; once on the 50th anniversary of the San Manuel Community Church in 2004; and again in May of this year. It was so strange to see the smelter and stacks gone, but welcoming to find so many ‘dear hearts and gentle people’ remain, and see the town poised for its next great adventure.
    It’s ironic that copper is now over $4.00 a pound! But it’s no use looking at what might have been.
    Thanks for this website.

  84. Pastor Dean Mead

    Oops! Addendum: We lived there 1975-1984, including myself, Donna, David, Dustin. I was Pastor of S. M. Community Church.

  85. Robert Fritts

    Sergio Montes,

    Friend, it would be great to get together sometime, Life has had its ups and downs, but God has blessed me with a good life. I’m in Tucson now with my civilian work, but will deploy to Afghanistan again in November(I seem to remember retiring from the Army in 2001, but they seem to have forgotten that, 3-Iraq, 2-Afghan tours). I’m in Phoenix often for golf or a Diamondback game. Drop me a line at robert.fritts@qwest.com. I’m usually busy being grandpa to my girls.

  86. Winnie

    I came to San Manuel when I was 3 years old. My mom absolultely HATED living in such close quarters, and felt that the town was segregated-hot shots on the top of town, tramp miners on the lower portion-so after much nagging, we moved to Oracle just before I started 1st grade.

    I have nothing but amazing childhood memories of growing up in the tri-community! My dad worked for the mines from 1955, until her retired in 1975. They even honed out a job for him when he came back after a 6 month illness and could no longer work as an underground miner. Those were the times when the company, and the people affiliated were like FAMILY!

    Of course, when high school came around, we Oracle kids were loaded on the bus for our grand adventure to San Manuel to meet and greet all the new kids from there and Mammoth. My freshman year, I met the young man who would become my husband of now 38 years! Who would’ve thought?? I had both my babies in that little hospital, which at the time, was a full-functioning surgical center.
    When my father accidentally sliced off his thumb, there was even a fully qualified hand surgeon on call at the hospital that night! The doctor did such an amazing job, until the day my father died, you’d have never known he’d had that accident! Those were definitely the days…

    I was working as the school nurse at SMHS/Jr. High when BHP decided to shut down the doors forever. We were out for the summer, but once we resumed, there were days I’d take my lunch break, and drive over to the old smelter area, sit in my car, and just curse BHP for all the damage and destruction they caused that community!!! I saw it every day in the faces of the kids I took care of, and the families who came in to my office. Not to mention how it effected my own life and my husband’s. But we’ve survivied.

    My husband took a day off from work the day the stacks were blown away. We went and sat as close as we were allowed, video’d them, took pictures, cried together, remembered old times together. We’ve known for a long time that things would never be the same. But we’re all survivors. And even a huge, multi-million dollar corporation (as selfish as it is!) cannot destroy us! From here, we just make newer, better, memories, right?? God bless you all!!

  87. Helen

    Winnie… as in Winnie Nelson? I remember having you as the school nurse for a little while, maybe my 8th grade through sophomore years at the high school. I was reading and just thought it was interesting that you were someone I remember. Most of the people who leave comments here are older than me and have different memories of SM. You probably don’t remember me, though. My last name is Jorg.

  88. Winnie

    Helen, I DO remember you! Good to see someone else here that I remember, who isn’t as old as the hills!

    Hope you are doing well, and have made a good life-probably outside of San Manuel? I know that I see loads of kids (now adults) in the Tucson area that were at the high school when I was working there. Many of them work in town, are going to school, etc.

    It’s always great to catch up to them and see where they ended up, and/or where they’re still going!

  89. Helen

    I’m working and living here in Tucson now, as far as I can from San Manuel. Yes, it’s a beautiful little place when you’re a child, but as you get older, and start your own life, there’s not enough oppurtunity there.

  90. Joe G

    Is the same inne who taught the EMT Class for the fire Department?

  91. Joe G

    Is the same Winne who taught the EMT Class for the fire Department?

  92. Brad Wilt

    Hi Sergio Montes
    I remember you, did you lose your front tooth because of a BB Gun ? sorry I Lived at 121 6th ave we played together often & had many classes together.

    I’m now live in tucson the past 8 years .about twice a year i ride to San Manuel for a Mel’s burger. Remenber in school burger, fries & coke cost $1.06 .what a bargan.

    I was also their when the stacks came down was a very sad day for me also . My grandparents lived on McNab we watched the number 2 stack go up.was so cool .

    Also remember walking from Ave B School To High School Cafeteria For lunch thur the desert befor they built the new homes along McNab Behind Mels Lunch was .25

    San Manuel Will Always Be Home To Me. I was born and raised there. My Moms Dad Walter Marsh was a miner from DeadWood SD ,they moved to Sam Manuel When The Mine was Jest starting, to make a better life for them. My Dads Dad James C Wilt Came to Sam Manuel To Bartent for Del Webb when the homes were being built, then later worked at the mill and retired.

    what about all the mussle car back then?that i will never for get.

    Also love to BBQ and smoke Meat

    Brad Wilt
    wiltbrad@cox.net

  93. Winnie

    No, I never taught for the fire department. I did teach first aid/CPR to the staff at the high school and jr. high, but that’s it. Hard to believe there’s more than one person with THAT name running around in the community! HA.

  94. Nancy Hough

    For all of you San Manuel-ites who would like to keep up with what the graduates of ALL the classes are doing, you need to subscibe (sorry not free but is reasonable!) to http://www.classmates.com

    There are a lot of our classmates there, and you can take a look and see if you might want to join. Some reunion iformation is sometimes posted there, as well as some of the “passings”. BUT DON’T FORGET to come back here to see what is new. This site is awesome, and I am soooooooo grateful that it is is here! THANK YOU webmaster, whoever you are. I read each and every posting and enjoyed them all!
    Nancy (Cardell)-Keith- Hough Class of 1964

  95. Nancy Hough

    A NOTE TO THOMAS
    I thank you for the offer of sending the video’s. I appreciate it. I bought the DVD’s from the town. I think the problem is with my dial-up being so slow. But then I am always careful when asked to download something, so I may not have the flash player installed.
    Sorry this took so long, but lost this link when PC went down.
    Again, thanks for the offer.
    Nancy